Thursday, July 20, 2017

Amway Responsible For Rage And Hate



There is something about Amway that creates hate and rage. To those of us who used to be in “the business” and have done some research and read other stories we can understand why the rage. Amway with the assistance of their cult leaders causes financial distress, debt, bankruptcy, divorces, destroys relationships, and screws people up emotionally.

A searcher found their way to this blog typing in: “I’ll just have to kill everyone at Amway”.

My first thought is this person has just got off the phone with one of those useless unhelpful bastards that work in Amway’s (lack of) customer service department.

I’ve dealt with those miserable assholes with the I-don’t-give-a-flying-fuck attitude. It is a lesson in frustration and futility that’s for sure!

I do not like Amway. I do not like people who are involved in Amway. I don’t like the lazy ass bastards who answer the customer service phone at Amway. That doesn’t mean I personally wish anyone connected to Amway ill harm or death but then I like to think I’m a rational, law abiding person. I’m one of many thousands who swallowed the losses, chalked it up as a bad learning opportunity, a horrible business, and walked away.

And then got involved in a real fun blog cursing out fucking Amway assholes!

I can see how there would be a small percentage of people that Amway has driven over the edge of despair. The phrase going postal comes to mind. If someone is having difficulty with an Amway product or their Amway upline and phones in to head office for assistance and are met with “there’s nothing we can do for you” or “Amway is not responsible for what is said at Amway meetings” or “Amway is not responsible for the IBO’s we hire”. You call in to head office for assistance and nobody gives a shit. You’ve lost a lot of money in the Amway scam and all you get from customer service is “ha ha we fucked you over!”

Someone voicing thoughts to kill everyone at Amway shows emotional imbalance. Maybe quite rightly so after what Amway has put them through. But killing everyone at Amway? Unfortunately this is not the first searcher who has put in similar criteria.

People who work at Amway are no different than people who work for other companies. The most common reason people accept jobs and stay with them is because its a paycheck. Most employees have no particular loyalty to their employer. If a better job comes along they are out of there. Sure some of us who were involved in Amway think that only a low life scum sucking son of a bitch would actually work for a company that causes so much misery around the world but when people have bills to pay and need a job who are we to judge why they work for a scumbag employer. I wrote another post where I said Amway employees are no different than other corporations. Most companies only 20% of the employees actually like working there and excel at their position. 80% of employees its just a paycheck and they are only putting in time while waiting for something better to come along. This is obvious to those of us who have had the misfortune to phone in to Amway’s head office for assistance and have dealt with employees at the customer service desk who don’t give a shit and who aren’t helpful. I see this a lot in Google searches with people showing up at my blog who are frustrated after trying to get assistance from Amway’s help desk which should be more aptly titled the unhelpful desk or the I-don’t-give-a-shit desk. Either title the customer phoning in rarely gets good service. What else do you expect? Chances are very good the person answering the phone at Amway is one of the 80% of employees who doesn’t give a shit about their job.

I’ve had the experience of working for a company many years ago with a weirdo employee - fortunately in another department! - who would fly into rages. I always said if he ever lost his job that I wouldn’t want to keep working for that company because he’s the only person I’ve ever known that I thought might show up with a gun and start shooting. When he got laid off I moved on myself about 3 months later. Even though I’d never had any run ins with him and shook his hand and wished him well on his last day, I had my doubts about his emotional stability and I’m sure not going to work for any company where I have any cause of concern about my personal safety.

In case anyone’s wondering a few months after I left the building was sold and the company merged with another company and relocated about 20 miles away. Probably too confusing for him to try to track anyone down.

Likewise I would never work for a controversial company that inspires rage in people and has received death threats. You just never know when that gun wielding crazy person is going to storm through the door.

Amway is getting search engine hits from people wishing death to the employees. I would never work for a company where people have voiced death wishes towards employees. Maybe some of those Amway employees that are surfing the Internet and reading my blog when they’re probably supposed to be actually getting some work done will think twice about their choice of employer and death threats. No job is worth dying for.




Wednesday, July 19, 2017

Other Ways Besides Amway Scamway To Earn Extra Cash



One way that slimy Amway IBO’s latch on to people is by asking them if they’d like to earn an extra $200 a month or an extra $1000 a month or fill in the blank with whatever amount you want extra a month working part time 10 to 15 hours a week.

Sure most people could use a few extra hundred dollars a month. That might mean a car payment, a mortgage payment, a new wardrobe, indulging a much loved hobby, getting debt paid off.... The possibilities are endless. I’d wager a guess that most people would probably not answer that they’re not interested in making extra income each month.

The real issue is that most people want to do it legitimately. They want to get paid for their efforts. They don’t want to be the one paying somebody else in order to take part in their scam.

Most people are wary enough to realize that when some scumbucket comes up to them and asks them if they want to earn extra money each month it probably has something to do with MLM, network marketing, Amway, or Monavie or some kind of commissioned sales.

I read a half assed article on Yahoo Finance that listed some ways to make extra money, mostly going at it on your own type of things. None of these will make someone a full time income but they are some ideas to make a little extra money each month and anything is better than Amway. None of these ways will force the entrepreneur into coming up with “up front” money to register nor force the entrepreneur into continuously putting money into the system in order to succeed. I’ve listed them below with a couple of my own comments. Why do I think its a half assed article? The suggestions are mainly good but at least two of them a person can run into scams. The article did not provide legitimate resources to find further information.

Don’t click the below link cause its now dead! Just rely on the interpretation that I came up with when I could still read the damned article!
http://financiallyfit.yahoo.com/finance/article-113433-10890-4-true-stories-finding-ways-to-make-extra-cash?ywaad=ad0035&nc

  1. Mystery Shopper - as the article says, watch out for scams but doesn’t tell you how to watch out for them! The biggest clue is if the mystery shopping company wants you to pay a registration fee. Its kind of like the Amway scam. Never pay a fee.
  2. Sell art on Ebay and Craigslist - that could also apply to just about any other kind of item. We’ve sold stuff on both mostly downsizing type of things but also some rare items (to other people maybe!) that we’ve made a few hundred on. Best month was around $2700 on Ebay sales. I bought Ebay for Dummies a few years ago when Amazon had it on for half price but it wasn’t something I really followed up on.
  3. Donate plasma - here I think the correct term should be “sell” plasma!
  4. Play music at bars and functions - well not everyone is musically gifted. Trust me on this one - no one wants to hear me sing!
  5. Type foreclosure data - I tried a Google search to see if I could find more information or how readily available these jobs are but no luck. Mostly web pages with links pointing to various employment databases that may or may not be legitimate. However I do know a woman who works at home doing legitimate data entry for a local business and earns $10 an hour (the minimum wage has gone up since this blog post first appeared) but its got nothing to do with foreclosures so I know data entry type work is out there.
  6. Sell old clothes - easier said than done if you’re talking Ebay or Craigslist. A consignment store might be another story but some stores take your clothes on a credit system instead of paying cash and you get credit to buy clothes in their shop.
  7. Teach night classes - just like the musicians this type of work may require some kind of education and special skills. Not everyone has what it takes.
So my overall take on this article is I barely give it a passing grade. It gives some ideas but does not expand on them or tell readers where they can find this type of legitimate work.

You’re better off going to a library and picking up a book that is devoted to starting a low cost home based business.

You are better off doing anything than Amway Scamway!







Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Time Frame For Ending The Vicious Amway Cycle



I’d say my husband is average when it comes to figuring out how long many IBO’s stick it out with Amway. Most ambots will quit Amway somewhere between 6 months and a year. That can be an eternity to a wife as she’s subjected to the abuse from upline, their attempts to destroy the relationship, and the money going down the drain while the upline badgers her husband to buy more products, attend all Amway meetings and functions, and invest heavily into the Amway tool scam. Depends on how much money they had in their savings account or how much room is available on his credit card, the losses could be small in the hundreds of dollars or more substantial in the thousands.

The time frame could vary too. I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that there might be a small number of Amway cult leaders who don’t badly abuse their downline and chastise them and insult them and try to destroy their relationships. These slightly kinder cult leaders may have the power to keep their ambots toeing the line for a longer period of time in order to suck more money out of them.

Amway is a vicious cycle. It starts off with some fucking asshole sponsoring your husband into Amway. Then he must go to two or three Amway meetings each week generally held in someone’s living room or basement but might occasionally be held in a hotel meeting room. There usually is no charge for the meetings held at someone’s house but there will be a fee if the Amway meetings is at a hotel. At least a couple of times a month a Diamond in need of a few thousand in cash will show up to speak to the masses. Again could be a hotel meeting room or maybe a school auditorium or similar venue. These cost $10 to attend. And someone who got out of Scamway about a year or so ago said the cost of the meetings are $15 so they might be a bit higher than that now too. About once a month there will be a rally where new pins get to “walk across the stage” which also costs $10 or more to attend and is held in an auditorium with a stage. There has to be a stage otherwise those brainwashed ambots would be unable to brag about “crossing the stage”. Also about once a month is some useless product seminar probably held in a hotel meeting room where an Amway product is showcased. Probably costs $25 to $50 to attend. So in an average month there will be 10 to 20 Amway related meetings the ambot must attend.

If the ambot stops attending he will be chastised by the Platinum cult leader who will be relentless in phone calls and text messages bullying the IBO until he buckles down and starts attending again.

That’s why I call Amway a vicious cycle. Once the wife has hope - and remember Amway is all about selling the hope! - that her husband is getting ready to quit because he’s stopped attending all these damned Amway meetings, some upline asshole badgers him and reminds him of his duties to the cult until he breaks down and goes back and buys more Amway products.

Eventually the ambot will find the strength to stop and this will be difficult because of all the love bombing the ambot actually might like some of these Amway assholes. Quitting Amway means quitting all these new friends because no one is allowed contact with former ambots. Quitting these new friends may be hard for the brainwashed ambot because he’s been cut off from his former friends for months now and he’s spent maybe 20 hours or more each week with these new friends attending cult meetings. His priorities are screwed up over who the real friends are. I’ve said it before - if friends are only interested in you for your money then they’re not real friends at all.

Amway is a vicious cycle. Always on the lookout for its next victim. And not discriminatory. Amway will recycle former victims of its cult. I know. Watched Ambot been there done that.

Financial roller coaster. Emotional roller coaster. All I wanted is for this terror park ride to end.

End the Amway cycle.

It will never really end until Amway is shut down and closes its doors forever.

Not everyone learns their lesson the first time around.

Amway is a vicious cycle.